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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:44 pm Post subject: Product Categorization: S/W Server
Hi all,
I'm a newbie in here... looking some help with the product categorizaion for the System/Software Server BMC Class.
The thing is that the discovery tool eventually will discover the Software server CI Type but then they need to be mapped to a product categorization following the best practice categorization.
I understand that this class, according to the definition, "store information about a server that provides a single service to client application or other systems". Examples of this asset include:
• DB Servers
• WEB Servers
• DNS Servers
• Directory Servers
• Mail Servers
Is there any "best" suggestion about how to give a general category to the class? or do you reckon that it has to be tailored according to the service provided?
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 5:25 pm Post subject:
Are you asking tool specific questions ?
If so, go to the a tool specific forum
This is an ITIL forum
ITIL is unconcerned what tools you would use to implement or assist in implementing ITIL
While some of us have had experience with specific tools, the focus in this forum is ITIL
As for classifications and sub classifications of devices - from an ITIL perspective, it is depends on your needs as whether to classify a server as merely a service or a web server or .... _________________ John Hardesty
ITSM Manager's Certificate (Red Badge)
Change Management is POWER & CONTROL. /....evil laughter
My questions was more in a general term than pointing to a tool. I just mentioned the tool to as part of my input. But my concern is about the best practice to be used as part of the association of the items with the categorization. I do understand that this forum is not to discuss specific tool matters and that's why I came here to ask for help.
Thanks
UKVIKING wrote:
Are you asking tool specific questions ?
If so, go to the a tool specific forum
This is an ITIL forum
ITIL is unconcerned what tools you would use to implement or assist in implementing ITIL
While some of us have had experience with specific tools, the focus in this forum is ITIL
As for classifications and sub classifications of devices - from an ITIL perspective, it is depends on your needs as whether to classify a server as merely a service or a web server or ....
Joined: Sep 16, 2006 Posts: 3110 Location: London, UK
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:20 pm Post subject:
itshadow
from a configuration mgmt pov, there really is no defined best practice (ITIL), standard (ISO 20k) in regards to how you classify or sub classify your IT assets.
the default answer here is
It depends
which would cover the answer to your question - in a generalist way
However, you asked a specific question - although the tool reference was not really needed.
You have an auto discovery tool - (separate thread regarding the use and usefullness of is somewhere) - that has identified some devices and the 'tool' auto classifies them {presumption - but most likely}
You query the value of Web Server, DNS Server etc over ... server....
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The IT department ./ organization / unit ./ company would give a clue as to how shallow or deep the classification should be.
I would classifiy the servers based on the services that are provided by that device. And if a server provided more than one service... I would take the highest valued one....
It also depends on how your CMDB is arranged
i would use the following example
The tool auto discovers 5 servers in a data center
they are
server01, server02... server05
the servers have the following data identifiers associated with them that would be unique
Hostname (machine name)
FQDN - Fully quallified domain name
IP Address(NIC card)
MAC Address (per card)
gateway Address (per NIC / IP )
Then the next set of data would be
O/S
patch / service pack
Then the services / application that would on the servers
DNS, DHCP, WINS, MS Exchange, IIS, LDAP, etc
So how would I classify the servers /
It would depend on the Service that I am providing
1 - I would classify the servers first just as servers - using the choice of laptop, desktop, server, router, switch
2- I would classify the servers based on the O/S
3 - i would classify the services usig the Services that is provided. If the server has multiple services and I could only use 1 then I would go for active services - Mail, Web, etc over the background services - WINS, DHCP, DNS, etc
but in the end... what ever I classify the servers as. I have to be able to use that information some how... If I dont use the information (and I being the team/dept/group), then why use the classification
I know this is not a concrete answer but... it depends _________________ John Hardesty
ITSM Manager's Certificate (Red Badge)
Change Management is POWER & CONTROL. /....evil laughter
UKVKING,
Thanks... Depending on the point of view of the reader the answer could be concrete! It depends...
For me it is... reading between lines I've found the help I was looking for to answer my question. Now I'm ready to discuss it with the team.
Thanks a lot.
UKVIKING wrote:
itshadow
from a configuration mgmt pov, there really is no defined best practice (ITIL), standard (ISO 20k) in regards to how you classify or sub classify your IT assets.
the default answer here is
It depends
which would cover the answer to your question - in a generalist way
However, you asked a specific question - although the tool reference was not really needed.
You have an auto discovery tool - (separate thread regarding the use and usefullness of is somewhere) - that has identified some devices and the 'tool' auto classifies them {presumption - but most likely}
You query the value of Web Server, DNS Server etc over ... server....
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The IT department ./ organization / unit ./ company would give a clue as to how shallow or deep the classification should be.
I would classifiy the servers based on the services that are provided by that device. And if a server provided more than one service... I would take the highest valued one....
It also depends on how your CMDB is arranged
i would use the following example
The tool auto discovers 5 servers in a data center
they are
server01, server02... server05
the servers have the following data identifiers associated with them that would be unique
Hostname (machine name)
FQDN - Fully quallified domain name
IP Address(NIC card)
MAC Address (per card)
gateway Address (per NIC / IP )
Then the next set of data would be
O/S
patch / service pack
Then the services / application that would on the servers
DNS, DHCP, WINS, MS Exchange, IIS, LDAP, etc
So how would I classify the servers /
It would depend on the Service that I am providing
1 - I would classify the servers first just as servers - using the choice of laptop, desktop, server, router, switch
2- I would classify the servers based on the O/S
3 - i would classify the services usig the Services that is provided. If the server has multiple services and I could only use 1 then I would go for active services - Mail, Web, etc over the background services - WINS, DHCP, DNS, etc
but in the end... what ever I classify the servers as. I have to be able to use that information some how... If I dont use the information (and I being the team/dept/group), then why use the classification
I know this is not a concrete answer but... it depends
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