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ITIL :: View topic - Service Desk KPI's in the ITIL environment, help needed.
Joined: Nov 19, 2008 Posts: 11 Location: South Yorkshire, UK
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:48 am Post subject: Service Desk KPI's in the ITIL environment, help needed.
Dear all
I am new to the forum so forgive me if this post is in the wrong area.
I have been working within a relatively lose ITIL Service Desk environment for some years now but recently it has become apparent that i need to turn things up a notch.
Starting with setting up basic KPI's for myself and my Service Desk staff.
My problem is simple:
I have never had to setup KPI's in the past so im not sure where to start.
As i manage an ITIL Service Desk and this is an ITIL forum i thought id make a start here.
Can anyone help?
I really need an idoits guide if there is one out there.
Is there a forum for things such as KPI's or can you guys and gals help me.
If you need anymore information from me let me know.
Many thanks for any help offered.
Trebz _________________ IT Service Desk Manager
ITIL V3 Foundation Certificate Holder
I'd suggest Service Desk/Incident/Problem training whether it's V2 or V3. Sample KPIs are covered in the ITIL books. If you do an internet search for Service Desk KPIs you might find some others that are useful in your organization.
Joined: Nov 19, 2008 Posts: 11 Location: South Yorkshire, UK
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 1:04 am Post subject:
rpmason wrote:
I'd suggest Service Desk/Incident/Problem training whether it's V2 or V3. Sample KPIs are covered in the ITIL books. If you do an internet search for Service Desk KPIs you might find some others that are useful in your organization.
--rpmason
Thanks for that. I have spent the last hour or so googling 'KPI Service Desk' and found some not so useful information so i came here, signed up and asked for help.
If you check my signature you will see that i have already been ITIL trained and qualified. I have not dealt with the KPI section since i completed the course which was in June 2005, hence my request for help.
I do not have my ITIL books as someone 'borrowed' them from my office. _________________ IT Service Desk Manager
ITIL V3 Foundation Certificate Holder
Hi Trebz, When I mentioned training, I meant Practioner or Intermediate certfication. Foundations could be enough ITIL training for Service Desk agents but not the Service Desk Manager (imho).
If you can't get your "borrowed" books back, the V2 books are much cheaper these days and some, I think, are already out of print.
--rpmason
ITIL V2 Foundations (Nov 2005)
ITIL IPSR (Feb 2008)
IT Service Manager (scheduled for 1Q 2009)
Joined: Nov 19, 2008 Posts: 11 Location: South Yorkshire, UK
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 1:26 am Post subject:
rpmason wrote:
Hi Trebz, When I mentioned training, I meant Practioner or Intermediate certfication. Foundations could be enough ITIL training for Service Desk agents but not the Service Desk Manager (imho).
If you can't get your "borrowed" books back, the V2 books are much cheaper these days and some, I think, are already out of print.
--rpmason
ITIL V2 Foundations (Nov 2005)
ITIL IPSR (Feb 2008)
IT Service Manager (scheduled for 1Q 2009)
*Edited as i thought my answer sounded a little nasty*
'Go and spend some money' was not the answer i expected
Joined: Sep 16, 2006 Posts: 3572 Location: London, UK
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:27 am Post subject:
We did. You just did not accept it.
Do you still have the foundation course materials ?
You can go to the ITIL web site - usually linked by the country itsmf site
The Glossary and the pocket book are on line.
The pocket book is in PDF form and download able
To help you out / give you hints
You are exposed to KPIs all time if you follow sports, the market, etc. they may be called something else but they are basically the same
ONE LAST THING: The forum and its posters are not here to act as an replacement for engaging your brain, etc. We will not give you the answer because the answer is subjective and content oriented. The best answer we give is... IT DEPENDS.
You have to spend effort - time,money, etc - to get the knowledge and reap the benefits.
If you dont make mistakes, do your own search and gain knowledge, how would you gain experience
After all, you can light the fire for a man and keep him warm for 1 cold night or you can make him the Wicker Man and he will be warm for ever _________________ John Hardesty
ITSM Manager's Certificate (Red Badge)
Change Management is POWER & CONTROL. /....evil laughter
Joined: Sep 16, 2006 Posts: 3572 Location: London, UK
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:10 am Post subject:
Why Google
ITSMF is the Service management foundation that is the focal point for IT service management details
British Computer society has ISEB under its banner
OGC is the UK government owner of ITIL
ISACA is the owner / source of CoBIT
HDI is for well the Help Desk
If you google for say ITIL, you may get training companys etc etc and this website,
if you google for KPI same thing
go to the web site for the organizations as they are the source for all
NOTE: ITIL Foundation course gives you the basic information
Practitioner more focused on specific processes w/in ITIL and the Manager's certification is the Holy Grail.
10 day course 2 day exam
that is V2.
If you think the foundation is the end of the knowledge, you are mistaken _________________ John Hardesty
ITSM Manager's Certificate (Red Badge)
Change Management is POWER & CONTROL. /....evil laughter
Trebz, I see you joined today. Spend some time reading this forum and you'll see many answers along the lines of "you need to understand <xyz> and take the time to apply it to your situation".
Skip that conference in a sunny locale this year and use your professional development monies for ITIL or HDI training.
If your employer doesn't provide professional development, you're in a stagnant situation. That will cost the company greatly while you flounder around trying to figure it out on your own.
Joined: Mar 04, 2008 Posts: 1894 Location: Helensburgh
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:54 am Post subject:
Sorry to butt in. I may have been asleep earlier.
Trebz, I doubt very much that you "manage an ITIL Service Desk". I suspect that you mange an IT services Service Desk and that your processes have some attributes derived from ITIL.
I don't do idiots' guides. My managers' guides for this question is:
1. determine what things are important about the performance of the service desk.
2. determine how to measure these.
3. set up a process to perform the measurements and a process to do something with the measurements... and a review process.
If you don't understand what the performance requirements are then you will not be able to identify the KPIs. If you do understand then you do not need to ask us what they are or what to do with them.
It should all go back to why you "need to turn things up a notch." I suspect you need to articulate that and then consider exactly what needs improved and then focus on that.
The idea that throwing KPIs at a system and expecting improvement is no more logical than throwing a tantrum at the system. The only way to improve a system is to analyse what it does and how it does it and how much it costs to do it and then try to make it do the same for less or more for the same. _________________ "Method goes far to prevent trouble in business: for it makes the task easy, hinders confusion, saves abundance of time, and instructs those that have business depending, both what to do and what to hope."
William Penn 1644-1718
Joined: Nov 21, 2008 Posts: 3 Location: Switzerland
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:34 am Post subject: Re: Service Desk KPI's in the ITIL environment, help needed.
Trebz wrote:
I have never had to setup KPI's in the past so im not sure where to start.
You can use the GQM (Goal - Question - Metric) framework.
Start by asking yourself: what is my goal? What goals were set for me? If you have none, make one up by looking at what can be improved. Ask feedback from your team, their input can be a nice source of information. Once you have some basis for goals, present them to your boss. Remember, goals have to be SMART: Specific, Measurable, Attainable, Relevant, Timely.
Once the goals are validated, ask how you can reach them by asking questions around those goals. Ask as many as possible because not all of them (and especially those that usually come up first) are not easy to measure.
Finally, for each "good" question you have, define a metric. Define it very precisely and be ready to stick to that definition for some time: it's better to keep a slightly inadequate metric than to fiddle with it every day. Define what data points are going in, and what data points are going out. Define when it is measured. Define how it is calculated, and automate it if possible (automation forces clear definitions).
Then measure those metrics for a number of time intervals so that you can define a baseline. After that, start applying your measures/improvements ideas (I doubt that you have the manpower to apply them all at the same time ) and see your metrics go in that direction you defined.
Joined: Sep 16, 2006 Posts: 3572 Location: London, UK
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:51 am Post subject:
Vinne2k
Thanks for joining this forum.
As for uptight. No. What we the heavy posters in the forum are IT Professional using / advocating / etc about ITIL, Best practice and such like
What irritates me and i think it goes for all is when people post things asking for a solution when 1) there is no 'official solution' and 2) they have failed to engage brain and think
The forum gets posts like
what is ITIL
Is this tool ITIL certified
I want my web site ITIL compliant
Can I do ... in Incident mgmt
what font should i use in Problem mgmt (exaggeration yes)
Can you provide me with everything you know about ITIL so i dont have to learn any thing and have to use my mind (more exaggeration)
Can you post the contents of V3 for me (not exaggeration)
Can you tell me where i can find cheats to pass the itil exams
I am doing the self study course.. can you help me answer ....
where can I get training in lower upper outoftown ?
what web site should I go to register for a itil course
I search the web and can not find training course in my area
and so on
I (We) get tired of moronic questions by people who are too lazy to do something, learn something or try to get IP (intellectual property) for free rather than paying for it.
So you can take your comment about us being uptight and shove it in the deleted bin.
Now as to the KPIs he wants. We have done what our purpose is .. try to give him enough information to find the information himself so that he can learn
Everything in ITIL is subjective - The company u work at, the culture of the company, the country, the industry, the tools you use and the staff you have to fill the company and the it department.
So if you really want, us uptight people will merely post
It depends
for all answers
Going to the bar for a corona _________________ John Hardesty
ITSM Manager's Certificate (Red Badge)
Change Management is POWER & CONTROL. /....evil laughter
UK Viking - I do appreciate your point - but I do think Vinnie2k also has a point.
Maybe the rule shoule be if you can't say anything helpful then do not post a reply.
The problem being that some of the response posts I have seem do seem to 'attack' - I understand your frustration at the 'stupidity' of some questions, but I am sure you would not want to discourage new peoiple from participating - so maybe just ignore those posts that annoy you?
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) and see your metrics go in that direction you defined.
