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alinux
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:07 pm    Post subject: ITIL ? PMP ? MBA ? What can ITIL offer me ? Reply with quote

Hi
I do have a Bsc in Information Technology, I am a MCSA/CCNA/Linux+/CEH and I have been in the business for roughly 7 years now. I am 29 years old and I want to take the next step in my career, I want to head for a management position based on the technical skills I have. So I am thinking about getting some kind of management certificate or technical/mgmgnt certificate.

This way I will get certified and my technical brain will learn to think more from a mgmnt pov.

So I could go extreme and do MBA or I could do PMP or maybe ITIL ?

Which one would give me the best Career advancement options with all other circumstances not considered ? Which one would allow me to benefit most to become a manager in a technical environment ?

Thanks
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UKVIKING
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alinux

what do you think ITIL or PMP or MOF are ?
What do you think CoBIT, CMMI, SDLC and Six Sigma are

As to whether or not you should get the certification for them is up to u.

Will it help ? Couldn't hurt. But help ? It depends

ITIL is IT Best Practice. You are probably doing some of it already - where you know it or not.

Why did you get the CCNA ? Are you a network tech ?
Why did you get the MCSA ? Are you a Wintel sys admin ?
Why did you get the LINUX+ ? Are you a Linux sys admin ?

The more relevant certification and knowledge that you acquire, the more hireable and promotable you should be ?
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thechosenone69
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi alinux,

The field of Management is humongous. To add to UK. Just ask your self the following question. Might make things easier for you.

"What is the title your after?"


Problem Manager?

IT Service Manager?

IT Support Manager?

Project Manager? etc..

This should narrow down the list for you. Also

Kind regards,

A
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recommend a brown belt in Brazilian Ju Jitsu
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thechosenone69
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol didnt see that coming

Ju Jitsu will do.. will definitely do Very Happy
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TomOzITIL_2
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try to implement a CMDB, that will give you the brown underpants
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:39 pm    Post subject: Re: ITIL ? PMP ? MBA ? What can ITIL offer me ? Reply with quote

Hi Alinux,
The answer is in what you will want to do in the future.
MBA, PMP and ITIL (probably Expert level) are in different area and the courses have different effort.
ITIL is the methodology in IT Service Management area.
PMP is a certification based on PMBoK and it is in Project Management area.
MBA is a qualification in General Management.
In witch area do you would like go? Now you work in IT sector and the short step is go to ITSM or PM.
The effort are very different between PMP, ITIL Expert or MBA. For take the PMP certification you must do a course about 5-6 days long and do a lot of self study. After, you could think about PrMP certification.
The first step to became ITIL Expert is take ITIL Foundation certification (you could do a 3 days course or in self study), the others steps are 4 or 5 courses (you couldnít use self study) and exams on Intermediate level (about 4 days for each courses).
The MBA is very different, you have two possibilities a full time and a part time MBA (usually called Executive MBA). This kind of course is general not specific in IT. In the same classroom you could have persons from ICT, Manufacturing, Financial, Automotive, etc. and many different rules: Consultant, Manager, CEO, CIO, etc.. The full time MBA usually is one year long and part time is two years long. This kind of course is quite expensive, not less of 30.000,00 euro but you easily arrive to more 100.000,00 euro in an important business school. In Italy for a MBA is very important the school where you go. Easily you could find on Internet the world wide top ten or the list of the business schools in your country.
In General Management you have another possibility. The business schools do some courses on specific area (for example General Management, Marketing Management, Brand Management, etc.); these courses are more short, 5-10 days ore more and they are less expensive.
The choice between the three areas isnít easy, probably ITSM or PM is more near to your actual job but the MBA or EMBA is a step to the top management, but this isnít the only key to become a CEO.
Kind regards

Andrea
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P.S.: Sorry my English, I'm improving it.
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TomOzITIL_2
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ITIL is a four letter acronym, that's one more than PMP of MBA so it's got to be better right? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No matter which one you get none of them offer you the true happiness.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did have the blue bird of hapiness in my hands once

The d**n bird cr*pped in my hand

So I beat the poor thing with my rose coloured glasses
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vimprash
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Based on your career goal. This is my suggestion for you:

Do your PMP to acquire project management skills
Simulataneously do ITIL foundations to learn about ITIL. A manager should be well versed in processes to satisfy his job responsibility of improving the processes.

All the best. Happy learning Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Based on other topics on this forum. I would encourage you to study ITIL since the position of "ITIL Engineer" is still available. ehmm..
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