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MiraH Newbie


Joined: Mar 04, 2010 Posts: 5 Location: Prague
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:05 am Post subject: ITIL based Service Desk application |
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I seek for new ITIL based Service Desk application. Any suggestion , positive or negative experience?
In case you are the supplier, feel free to contact me for the "Request for Proposal" document. |
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UKVIKING Senior Itiler

Joined: Sep 16, 2006 Posts: 3118 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:24 am Post subject: |
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MiraH
ITIL is best practice. therefore there really is no such thing as ITIL ... tools
You should look instead to seeing how easy the tool is to match your processes and can be modified as required _________________ John Hardesty
ITSM Manager's Certificate (Red Badge)
Change Management is POWER & CONTROL. /....evil laughter |
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Diarmid Senior Itiler

Joined: Mar 04, 2008 Posts: 1883 Location: Newcastle-under-Lyme
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:44 am Post subject: |
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MiraH,
if you want to build an effective service management system, you cannot afford to believe a word we say about the quality, good or bad, of any tools. You have to evaluate products against your requirement and we do not know what your requirements are. _________________ "Method goes far to prevent trouble in business: for it makes the task easy, hinders confusion, saves abundance of time, and instructs those that have business depending, both what to do and what to hope."
William Penn 1644-1718 |
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DYbeach Senior Itiler

Joined: May 25, 2008 Posts: 413 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:44 am Post subject: |
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Hi Mira,
the above two posters are exactly right.
It is infinitely more important to have your policy and processes defined.
You have to understand what you are doing and why.
I'm not saying that tool selection is easy, but if you have the picture in your mind of what your practices are and the rationales for them, finding something that you can live with and aligns with those practices will be much, much simpler.
And you will not be as easily swayed by the bright, shiny demoes _________________ DYbeach
ITIL V3 Release, Control & Validation,
ITIL V3 Operation SUpport & Analysis
PMI CAPM (R)
"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." George Orwell |
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thechosenone69 Senior Itiler

Joined: Jun 06, 2007 Posts: 268
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Adding to the other posts.
Get a pen and a paper and start writing a checklist of what you require from that tool, then pass that list to other teams in your company (IT and non-IT) to add their input, give it to the management, customers, users etc. its very key that you get all of their requirement and desires before you start selecting a tool. _________________ Ali Makahleh
Configuration Management(Blue Badge),
ITILV2 Service Manager(Red Badge),
ITILV3 Expert(Lilac Badge) Certified.
“If you can't describe what you are doing as a process, you don't know what you're doing." W. Edwards Deming. |
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DYbeach Senior Itiler

Joined: May 25, 2008 Posts: 413 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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Well, Mira, let no-one say that this forum is unhelpful.
You have just received some great advice, and all for free.
Have fun! _________________ DYbeach
ITIL V3 Release, Control & Validation,
ITIL V3 Operation SUpport & Analysis
PMI CAPM (R)
"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." George Orwell |
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UKVIKING Senior Itiler

Joined: Sep 16, 2006 Posts: 3118 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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I will have to differ DYBeach
I am not no-one and this forum is unhelpful
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sorry could not resist
It is like the Spanish Inquisition _________________ John Hardesty
ITSM Manager's Certificate (Red Badge)
Change Management is POWER & CONTROL. /....evil laughter |
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DYbeach Senior Itiler

Joined: May 25, 2008 Posts: 413 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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No-one expected the Spanish Inquisition!  _________________ DYbeach
ITIL V3 Release, Control & Validation,
ITIL V3 Operation SUpport & Analysis
PMI CAPM (R)
"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." George Orwell |
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Diarmid Senior Itiler

Joined: Mar 04, 2008 Posts: 1883 Location: Newcastle-under-Lyme
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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Ahh!
The old ones are the best  _________________ "Method goes far to prevent trouble in business: for it makes the task easy, hinders confusion, saves abundance of time, and instructs those that have business depending, both what to do and what to hope."
William Penn 1644-1718 |
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DYbeach Senior Itiler

Joined: May 25, 2008 Posts: 413 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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I resemble that remark!  _________________ DYbeach
ITIL V3 Release, Control & Validation,
ITIL V3 Operation SUpport & Analysis
PMI CAPM (R)
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viv121 Senior Itiler

Joined: Dec 15, 2007 Posts: 112
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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Mirah, Buddy, are you aware that you might be spamming in this forum? _________________ regards,
Vivek
"the only statistics you can trust are those you falsified yourself"
Winston Churchill |
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TomOzITIL_2 Senior Itiler

Joined: May 14, 2009 Posts: 128
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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go and buy a book called "Owning ITIL", written by the IT Skeptic - Rob England. It includes 17 realistic recommendations.
Plus some good humour.
#1 thing is to be very very wary of what toolset vendors say. |
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thechosenone69 Senior Itiler

Joined: Jun 06, 2007 Posts: 268
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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they say alot dont they? I remember when I went to the Service Desk Show I went fullt armored, lots of aspirin and Pandol in pockets _________________ Ali Makahleh
Configuration Management(Blue Badge),
ITILV2 Service Manager(Red Badge),
ITILV3 Expert(Lilac Badge) Certified.
“If you can't describe what you are doing as a process, you don't know what you're doing." W. Edwards Deming. |
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UKVIKING Senior Itiler

Joined: Sep 16, 2006 Posts: 3118 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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Lisa
This forum does not allow LINKS at all
ITIL ADMIN: can you edit ? _________________ John Hardesty
ITSM Manager's Certificate (Red Badge)
Change Management is POWER & CONTROL. /....evil laughter |
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ITILadmin Senior Itiler

Joined: Oct 19, 2004 Posts: 163
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:58 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the heads up. All her posts have been deleted. |
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