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asbalaji Newbie


Joined: Sep 04, 2005 Posts: 1
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:16 pm Post subject: Known Error Database / Knowledge Base |
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Hi All,
Has anyone successfully implemented KEDB / Knowledge Base in their organization as part of problem management process.?
If yes, could you pls explain the major steps involved in creating a successful KEDB / knowledge base..?
Thanks in advance
Balaji |
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alanlm143 Newbie


Joined: Dec 06, 2005 Posts: 5
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:17 am Post subject: |
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Hi there. There are no quick answer to your question. I have been in the ITIL organisation for 2 years now and guess what, we are still using microsoft excel as our problem knowledge database.
But soon, we will be implementing our problem knowledgebase next month. I am pretty excited about it because I am the one who developed it. I used Lotus Notes for the PM DB because of the cost issue. Well, If you are not fussy, you can try to develop a web based knowledgebase by using html.
I believe the biggest challenge for the PM DB is the content itself. If you first started it, you will find that helpdesk will hardly use it because of the information available in the DB. Also, you must create a control point for 2nd/3rd level to dump in the resolution. For example, you must ensure all problem record will generate a resolution and put on the database. If you are familiar with ITIL, not all Problem has a resolution, they might be a workround. So, you might want to include the resolution in the PM DB.
I am in a decent size company supporting client from more than 150 countries and 30,000. Still, we are still using excel spreadsheet. Again, it depends of the budget that you have. Microsoft Technet is a very good example for knowledgebase.
I hope this info helps. |
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taiger Newbie


Joined: Dec 28, 2005 Posts: 8 Location: The netherlands
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
we're fortunate to have an itil tool with an intergrated knowledge-base.
in this tool you can tranfer a solution ( or workaround ) of a known
error into the knowledge base.
Incident management can use te KB-items becouse they are sorted
in the same order as the incidents ( we have a group called detection in
wich the incident en they KB-items are sorted ) in an incident with a
certain detection you can drill through to a KB-item with the same detection.
if you're making a KB in excell it could be uselfull to use the
same "detection" fields as in the incidents so you easely can
look up the desired KB-item.
regards
Frank _________________ "if you aim at nothing, that's what you're likely going to hit" |
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rjp Senior Itiler

Joined: Mar 12, 2005 Posts: 255 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 1:04 am Post subject: |
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A note of caution (brief - I have posted on this in otyher threads).
A knowledge base and a KEDB are two distinct things - with different functions, costs, and requirements.
The KEDB is for the current 'live' errors found by problem management - once they have been corrected, the entry should be removed form the KEDB.
I.E.: A KEDB is an operational information source that provides a critical process control point between problem and change management. A Knowledge base is a much more persistant (and complex) information architecture.
A "known error" is simply the faulty CI discovered in the Incident/Probelm resolution processes.
I would like to suggest that what you are really discussing is simply a technical knowledge base. |
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martyboy Newbie


Joined: May 29, 2006 Posts: 5 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:20 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
I know its a while since this topic has had a reply but I thought I wuld share what I do...
I simply have a new field in the Problem form that is a checkbox called "Known Probelm" when this gets ticked it means its a know problem and the workaround is contained in the form.
Users of the database can create views the show only problems with the "known Problem" checkbox ticked.
And when the root couase has fdixed the probelm it is closed and the checkbox automatically cleared.
works well, just have to educate the users on when and why to tick the checkbox. |
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Guerino1 Senior Itiler

Joined: Jan 01, 2006 Posts: 500 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 8:36 am Post subject: |
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Marty,
This is what we do for our customers, in our product, too. They seem to be more than happy simply having this identifier on their problem records.
Regards, _________________ [Edited by Admin to remove link] |
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nr_vinod Newbie


Joined: Jul 21, 2006 Posts: 3
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
A problem is given the "KE" tag after a RCA has been done. Once its done add the KE to the KEDB.
We are planning to implement the KEDB in this fashion. Please guide me if I am doing something wrong here.
Regards
Vinod _________________ "The hardest work of all is to do nothing” |
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arnoldmram Itiler

Joined: Mar 08, 2005 Posts: 36
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:25 am Post subject: |
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Hi Vinod,
A lot of service management tools in the market today, also implement KEDB the way you have mentioned - by simply giving that tag of root cause identified and RFC raised. A word of caution would be that while you upload this Known error into the Excel sheet, it will be equally important to delete it from the excel sheet once the RFC has been implemented successfully. |
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neopunk Newbie


Joined: Sep 15, 2006 Posts: 9
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Arnold,
As u said earlier..
| Quote: | | A word of caution would be that while you upload this Known error into the Excel sheet, it will be equally important to delete it from the excel sheet once the RFC has been implemented successfully. |
I did not quite understand this statement. Why would I need to delete the KE from teh excel sheet. Please elaborate for me.
Cheers _________________ "The cost of a LOST CUSTOMER is the GREATEST LOSS of ALL..." |
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ranjithraghunathan Itiler

Joined: May 09, 2007 Posts: 22 Location: Bangalore
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Why would I need to delete the KE from teh excel sheet?
A KE is the known error. And when there is a known error a problem request could be raised to permanently resolve the problem if the frequency of this problem is high. Then a Change Request will be raised called as a Request for Change (RFC).
The resolution that is provided till then could be either temporary or a workaround.
If the Change Advisory Board approves the change as the change is within budget, has a significant impact on the user satisfaction, makes business sense to implement the change etc then the Change will result in the permanent fix of the problem.
When the RFC is now implemented successfully, the initial problem ceases to be a problem, and thus becomes redundant on the excel sheet and needs to be removed.
Ranjith Raghunathan
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jpgilles Senior Itiler

Joined: Mar 29, 2007 Posts: 123 Location: FRance
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 1:42 am Post subject: |
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| ranjithraghunathan wrote: |
When the RFC is now implemented successfully, the initial problem ceases to be a problem, and thus becomes redundant on the excel sheet and needs to be removed.
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This looks very theorical to me...
In reality, the original problem will be "closed" (that is quite different from deleted...) with a reason code like "change successfully implemented" .
However , it may happen that the change applied did not really solve the problem, in which case, the same problem would be re-opened: we should have a trace of all the investigations done before instead of starting from scratch again...
rgds _________________ JP Gilles |
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ranjithraghunathan Itiler

Joined: May 09, 2007 Posts: 22 Location: Bangalore
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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I agree that the problem will be closed and not deleted.
The initial question on this post was about maintaining a KEDB and suggestions were to have an Excel sheet with the list of known errors.
I was saying that once the problem request is closed, the known error should be deleted from the excel sheet to remove redundancy of information.
Also post the RFC implementation if the incident recurrs, then the Problem team should be pushing back the earlier resolution/workaround that existed back into the excel sheet through the owner of the KEDB (in this case the excel sheet). This is because there could have been resultant change in the configuration of the IT components which may have adverse consequences if the earlier known error is prescribed to the user.
Hope I have made my idea clear, but willing to see any inputs with respect to the same.
Ranjith Raghunathan
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BB Newbie


Joined: Jul 19, 2007 Posts: 2
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:59 pm Post subject: RCA |
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| nr_vinod wrote: | Hi,
A problem is given the "KE" tag after a RCA has been done. Once its done add the KE to the KEDB.
We are planning to implement the KEDB in this fashion. Please guide me if I am doing something wrong here.
Regards
Vinod |
Hi Vinod
what is your RCA process. how do you and who - prioriises the RCAs. Is there a limit on the no=umber produced?
thanks _________________ BB
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