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ITIL :: View topic - Is There Any Relationship Between ITIL and an EAF ?
Joined: Jan 01, 2006 Posts: 500 Location: New Jersey
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:37 pm Post subject: Re: Is There Any Relationship Between ITIL and an EAF ?
Hello Kenlohwh,
There is no intentional intersection between the two. Any intersection of commonality is coincidental and should be interpreted as such. Trying to create a forced intersection between the two might lead to more problems than are solved.
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 4:21 pm Post subject: Re: Is There Any Relationship Between ITIL and an EAF ?
Guerino1 wrote:
Hello Kenlohwh,
There is no intentional intersection between the two. Any intersection of commonality is coincidental and should be interpreted as such. Trying to create a forced intersection between the two might lead to more problems than are solved.
My Best,
Frank Guerino, CEO
TraverseIT
On-Demand ITIL
Thank you Frank for you response. However, I still have some questions before I let this topic rest.
Both [No links please] and [No links please] seem to, according to my own interpretation, imply that there is a relationship between ITIL and TOGAF. Is there anyone who has the same opinion?
If there is no relationship, could someone share their views on why is that so?
I've just written a White paper for the Open Group titled "ITIL and TOGAF Touchpoints". It decribes where ITIL could be used in conjuction with TOGAF.
This paper has been just approved by the Architecture Forum members yesterday. It is actually being moved to the standard Open Group template and soon be available on their website.
Joined: Mar 03, 2007 Posts: 33 Location: Minneapolis
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:16 pm Post subject: Agree with Serge
There is absolutely a relationship between ITIL and EA frameworks. ITIL is a statement of requirements for how to run IT as a business. EA frameworks provide a structured means for analyzing any large domain of business concern.
It is NOT correct to suggest, as some have done, that ITIL is itself an EA framework. EA frameworks have more structure and rigor, ideally using some form of metamodel to describe a viewpoint on an integrated model, of interest to some particular stakeholder.
My book (see www . erp4it . com) is an application of EA analysis to ITIL, COBIT, and the portfolio management literature, with a bit of CMMI.
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 3:13 am Post subject: Are There Any UML Representations of The Relationships?
Are there any graphical representations of the relationships between the various EAs and best practices frameworks?
I tried to google for one but could not find any so far. If you know of any, I'd appreciate it if you could post the link here. (BTW, is it just me or are all links barred from this forum?)
While waiting for replies, I have created a UML representation using my limited understanding of the subject matter. Naturally, there are a lot of mistakes and omissions there, which I hope someone could point out the wrong or missing pieces. The image is as follows: .
Just in case the forum does a bermuda triangle to the image's URL above, I'm retyping it here with extra spaces: "simplestrats . com / pictures / frameworkrelationships.png".
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