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Joanne
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:22 am    Post subject: ITIL and DRP Reply with quote

Hello @ll,

I'm about to start a Disaster Recovery Planning project with a new client that has implemented ITIL.
Are there any particular areas I should be looking at with respect to ITIL?
Any help/hints will be greatly appreciated!

Thanks

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Joanne

Couple links between ITIL and BC/DR :-

1- The overall ITIL framework has a "security management" component and this can be based on BS7799 (ISO17799)

2- One of the two ITIL pillars which is "IT Service Delivery" which covers 5 processes (functions) including a "IT Service Continuity Management" process (function) which includes risk assessment, business impact analysism disaster recovery plans, ....

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the tips ITILGUY. My next question would then be:

Is it mandatory to use these guidelines (are they guidelines?)when developing the DRP?
The reason I'm asking is that my client will be under an IT audit towards the middle of the DRP project. The audit will be performed by their HQ which I assume may then be subject to ITIL.
My confusion comes from the fact that I'm more CISA inclined and perhaps have more difficulty "picturing" the ITIL framework.

Thanks.

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strictly and only in line with ITIL, the Disaster Recovery Plan is part of IT Service Continuity Management.

Your project should cover the following:
1. Initiation
2. Requirements and Strategy
3. Organization and implementation planning
4. Education and Awareness, Review, Testing, Change Control, Training, Assurance

1. Initiation - Initiate Business Contuinity Management
2. Requirements & Strategy - Business Impact Analysis, Risk Assessment, Business Continuity Strategy.
3. Organization and implementation planning - Implement Standby Arragements, Develop Recovery Plans, Implement Risk Reduction Measures, Develop Procedures, Initiate Testing

In the business impact analysis - have the purpose areas as follows
1. Identify key IT services
Determine the effect of unavailability
2. Determine the effect of unavailability
3. Investigate the time before the effects are felt
4. Assess minimum recovery requirements
5. Document with the business impact scenarios

Risk Analysis & Management

Guage - Assets, Threasts, Vulnerabilities under Risks.
Take Counter measures for tackling the risks.

Business continuity strategy - What services will be plan for?, What recovery and preventive options are available? , What are the costs of each?, What services take priority in recovery?

Standby arrangements - Do nothing, manual workarounds, reciprocal arrangements, Immediate Recovery, Intermidiate Recovery, Gradual Recovery, Fortress approach, dormant contracts, insurance.

Do you want more? Smile
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would suggest that you have your entire Disaster Recovery Plan charted down in a flowchart using Swimlane (MS Visio 2003 is sufficient).

This will help you very well in simplifying your course of action.
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although ITIL's Continuity Management is pretty accurate for that matter, I would recommend to refer to BCI's guides of Best Practices.

(BCI stands for Business Continuity Institute, see their web site)
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or better still... there is an emerging standard for business continuity management: BS25999

See the website: 25999.info for information on the current state of play, or perhaps pas56.com (bs25999 was previously known as PAS56).

This shouldn't be confused with PAS77, which is another option. This is specifically related to IT Service Continuity Management. See the source from BSI here: standardsdirect.org/pas77.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello ,

My question is about the response from Ranjith Raghunathan

I have read ITIL book, so i agree with you, but can you help me understand:

- BIA is for the business so i have understood that the goal was to determine impact when business processes stop (if the pay service stop ...). But in my compagny, we started with application so i would determine impact when application stop (if the application stop ...). When i read your message i understand that i have to determine impact when a IT componant (server, motherboard, hard disk, switch) stop (if this component stop ...). What is the good practice ? Have tou an exemple of "key IT service", an exemple of "effect of unavailability" ? What is the granularity of the study : server, hard disk, cpu ...

- Risk : risk on a specific hard disk or on a specific server or on all the IT system (mehari ...)

An other question : how much month for implementing ITIL Continuity on 700 servers.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stef,

ITIL as BCI recommend to start with BIA as a DRP should be part of a larger plan to recover business activities in case of a disaster (what's the value of being able to restart application X in 24 H on a backup site if there are no users to use it, because the biz managers did not organize to relocate the users as part of their continuity plan?).
However, it happens quite often that the IT department starts working on continuity and DRP issues before the business really starts considering the issue.
In any case, the recommendation is the same: you have to start form the business side:
* which business processes are the most critical for the company?
* How long can teh company survive without them?
* What IT services do support these business processes?
* What IT systems do participate in this services?
* What CI do contribute to these systems?

Please take care that although the work will focus on restoring the most critical services first, preferably in a controlled and fully planned procedure, you probably have to make sure, you wil be able to restore all services at the end, even the least critical (e.g. development activities may not be critical nor need to be restarted in the next 48 hours, however the company may not be able to survice to the loss of all development data & work that was done over the past year nor the unabality to restart its development in a certain period of time after the disaster....

Ansewering the questions above will merely allow to classify IT services and systems in several categories (I would recommend a minimum of 3) based on different criteria (max unavailability, data loss,...) that will help shape your recorvery plan in different phases...

Hope it can help clarify your mind

Best regards
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joanne wrote:
Thanks for the tips ITILGUY. My next question would then be:

Is it mandatory to use these guidelines (are they guidelines?)when developing the DRP?


Hi Joanne,

I wonder whether you think that your question is already answered? I mean, you ask about whether it is mandatory. In effect, there is nothing "mandatory" about ITIL as such. It is a set of best practices which should be used to the benefit of your particular organisation.
"Mandatory-ness" only comes in with ISO-certification etc. For instance: ISO20K is very clear about what measures you should have in place. And either you qualify, or you don't.

But if the audit is done by your own HQ, what is the problem? This sounds like an internal audit (?) of which any formal certification is not directly dependant (?)

Hope this helps,

Michiel
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the best Motherboard out there that can take the most upgrades?
I am looking at building a computer but I need to know the best motherboard that can handle the most upgrades. Can anyone let me know what some of the best are and how much they cost? Feel free to just add links if you'd like.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oblique topic change... I love it

Clueless as well
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't fancy using a computer put together with that level of compatibility.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

carischila wrote:
What is the best Motherboard out there that can take the most upgrades?
I am looking at building a computer but I need to know the best motherboard that can handle the most upgrades. Can anyone let me know what some of the best are and how much they cost? Feel free to just add links if you'd like.


Quite determined.
I vote him/her as the next admin Laughing

To your question, carischila, popular motherboards down here are ASUS, PC-Chip, etc; mostly are Taiwan made.

That is all
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

asrilrm wrote:
To your question, carischila, popular motherboards down here are ASUS, PC-Chip, etc; mostly are Taiwan made.


Your turn to be super helpful today asrilm?
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