Search
Topics
  Create an account Home  ·  Topics  ·  Downloads  ·  Your Account  ·  Submit News  ·  Top 10  
Modules
· Home
· Content
· FAQ
· Feedback
· Forums
· Search
· Statistics
· Surveys
· Top
· Topics
· Web Links
· Your_Account

Current Membership

Latest: gangdtrt63
New Today: 41
New Yesterday: 61
Overall: 139368

People Online:
Visitors: 68
Members: 2
Total: 70 .

Languages
Select Interface Language:


Major ITIL Portals
For general information and resources, ITIL and ITSM World is the most well known for both ITIL and ITIL Books. A shorter snapshot approach can be found at ITIL Zone

Related Resources
Service related resources
Service Level Agreement
Outsourcing

Note: ITIL is a registered trademark of OGC. This portal is totally independent and is in no way related to them. See our Feedback Page for more information.


The Itil Community Forum: Forums

ITIL :: View topic - How good is ITIL???
 Forum FAQForum FAQ   SearchSearch   UsergroupsUsergroups   ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

How good is ITIL???

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    ITIL Forum Index -> ITIL Certification
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
sheen
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: Oct 20, 2010
Posts: 5

PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:59 pm    Post subject: How good is ITIL??? Reply with quote

Hi ITIL Experts,

Can someone please advice me how good is ITIL and the job prospects...

I'm working adult with 5 years + experience in windows environment and Sharepoint. I worked as a Incident team lead as well.

The thing over here is I'm really interested in non tech related job. Even at my current workplace, I came up with the support framework according to the ITIL standards. But when I'm looking for purely ITIL related job, it's very less here.
Currently I'm pursuing my ITIL v3 foundation+PMP.

Can someone please advice what's missing from my end?

Thanks in advance

Sheen
Back to top
View user's profile
UKVIKING
Senior Itiler


Joined: Sep 16, 2006
Posts: 3292
Location: London, UK

PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheen

good as what ?
ITIL is a IT process guideline for managing IT Operations - Incident etc

It benefits those who are in IT doing IT operations
It does not hurt to have certification and experience in it
_________________
John Hardesty
ITSM Manager's Certificate (Red Badge)

Change Management is POWER & CONTROL. /....evil laughter
Back to top
View user's profile
UKVIKING
Senior Itiler


Joined: Sep 16, 2006
Posts: 3292
Location: London, UK

PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SAM

No URLs

No sales work in this forum

ITIL ADMIN: YOUR CALL
_________________
John Hardesty
ITSM Manager's Certificate (Red Badge)

Change Management is POWER & CONTROL. /....evil laughter
Back to top
View user's profile
UKVIKING
Senior Itiler


Joined: Sep 16, 2006
Posts: 3292
Location: London, UK

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thynk

The issue is the LINK

The blantant sales blurb is merely an irritant -

As for what Diarmid wrote, he is NOT in the sales business. he is a tech / IT person who uses ITIL - like me. It also was sarcasm / irony - which is a English speciality - which escapes me as I am a hillbilly stuck in england. You should read more than one or 2 post to try to justify sales posts.

While sales post are allowed, they are an irritant in here when we get spam like posts - which yours is NOT - from training companies

I also have to say that the forum Certification is probably the only forum in this web site - where Sales posts - relevant and not spam - are tolerated.

I have to say after reading your entire post, I must admit I did jump the gun on the post / sales blurb. You actually answered his question and then offered the services of your company.

So ITIL ADMIN should be merely edit the link out and leave your post out

It is cold and the GoGs are in full bloom today
_________________
John Hardesty
ITSM Manager's Certificate (Red Badge)

Change Management is POWER & CONTROL. /....evil laughter
Back to top
View user's profile
sheen
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: Oct 20, 2010
Posts: 5

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi John,

Thanks for your reply...
As a Change Manager, I think you can give me a piece of good advice here.
Example, do you need to be tech savvy to be a CHANGE MANAGER or well versa with the ITIL processes only??

Hi Sam,

Thanks for you valuable output...
In a way, I know ITIL is very valuable...
Unfortunately, I'm not from UK to join your ITIL class...Smile

Cheers

Sheen
Back to top
View user's profile
UKVIKING
Senior Itiler


Joined: Sep 16, 2006
Posts: 3292
Location: London, UK

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheen

It depends

I know the phrase is rather trite but.....

if you are dealing with Application Change Management - you have to understand concepts like programing, build plans etc - but you dont have to be a hard core tech weenie

It helps in things like - realizing BS when a team lead say - we never have any issues .. it installs ok... why should we test

Being tech oriented is ok but not required

I put a defintion of a good CM as follows - summarized

a good cm is power mad dictatorial anal retentive pedantic with delusions of godhood

and sometime you do CM

Your main role - besies managing the process - is keeping the idiots from screwing up the system and acting as the doubting thomas - ie prove it rather than take some ones word

Please read through the CM Forum for more data
_________________
John Hardesty
ITSM Manager's Certificate (Red Badge)

Change Management is POWER & CONTROL. /....evil laughter
Back to top
View user's profile
Diarmid
Senior Itiler


Joined: Mar 04, 2008
Posts: 1884
Location: Newcastle-under-Lyme

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John,

what did I wrote?

Sorry. What did I right?

Oh I give up! this keyboard is rubbish.
_________________
"Method goes far to prevent trouble in business: for it makes the task easy, hinders confusion, saves abundance of time, and instructs those that have business depending, both what to do and what to hope."
William Penn 1644-1718
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
sheen
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: Oct 20, 2010
Posts: 5

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi John,

Thank you so much for your detailed explanation.
At least I'm getting a clearer picture now..Smile
Meaning to say it will be a +point if you have tech knowledge as well...
I'll go through the CM forum as well.
Let me complete my ITIL foundation before coming up with more questions...Smile

Cheers

Rasheen M
Back to top
View user's profile
UKVIKING
Senior Itiler


Joined: Sep 16, 2006
Posts: 3292
Location: London, UK

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diarmid

Thynk challenged my quick fired post about sales spam and used your response to some one wanting ITIL templates as the basis.

Your keybored is working fine, it is merely the words you cheese
_________________
John Hardesty
ITSM Manager's Certificate (Red Badge)

Change Management is POWER & CONTROL. /....evil laughter
Back to top
View user's profile
ITILadmin
Senior Itiler


Joined: Oct 19, 2004
Posts: 167

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UKVIKING wrote:
No URLs

No sales work in this forum

ITIL ADMIN: YOUR CALL

My call was to delete: these people are just.... ok, I won't carry on, but I'm sure you agree. Smile
Back to top
View user's profile
Diarmid
Senior Itiler


Joined: Mar 04, 2008
Posts: 1884
Location: Newcastle-under-Lyme

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thinks John.
_________________
"Method goes far to prevent trouble in business: for it makes the task easy, hinders confusion, saves abundance of time, and instructs those that have business depending, both what to do and what to hope."
William Penn 1644-1718
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Timo
Senior Itiler


Joined: Oct 26, 2007
Posts: 295
Location: Calgary, Canada

PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:00 am    Post subject: Re: How good is ITIL??? Reply with quote

sheen wrote:
Hi ITIL Experts,

Can someone please advice me how good is ITIL and the job prospects...



Not sure about everybody else but personally I think ITIL is AWESOME!!!
Back to top
View user's profile
UKVIKING
Senior Itiler


Joined: Sep 16, 2006
Posts: 3292
Location: London, UK

PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah

Timo: Still wishing to be an ITIL Engineer ?
_________________
John Hardesty
ITSM Manager's Certificate (Red Badge)

Change Management is POWER & CONTROL. /....evil laughter
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    ITIL Forum Index -> ITIL Certification All times are GMT + 10 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

Powered by phpBB 2.0.8 © 2001 phpBB Group
phpBB port v2.1 based on Tom Nitzschner's phpbb2.0.6 upgraded to phpBB 2.0.4 standalone was developed and tested by:
ArtificialIntel, ChatServ, mikem,
sixonetonoffun and Paul Laudanski (aka Zhen-Xjell).

Version 2.1 by Nuke Cops 2003 http://www.nukecops.com

Forums ©

 

Logos/trademarks property of respective owner. Comments property of poster. Rest 2004 Itil Community for Service Management & Foundation Certification. SV
Site source copyright (c)2003, and is Free Software under the GNU / GPL licence. All Rights Are Reserved.